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 Post subject: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:31 am 
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For the interests of time, and the need to be elsewhere sometimes, the council has been erected.

The purpose of the council is the bring forth ideas, share feedback, and vote on if they should be implemented. Any person can bring forth ideas, but the council will have the final vote. (Disregard the word "final" however; if a majority of the forum doesn't like the vote, they can reject the new rulling. We'll get the numbers out later.)

The council will be currently made up of those elected for each chapter. This includes: Commanders, Sub Commanders, and Lieutenants.

I have also left a rough draft of how me and my brother were discussing a good way to run the council board. Feel free to leave comments here, and let me know if you think it should be altered in any way.

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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:35 pm 
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I like the idea of The Council. The fact that it's going to be a group of people to help make decisions is a lot better than some clans/guilds I've encountered in the past. Most of the time the leader/creator goes all "It's my way or the highway" based on the fact that he/she was put in charge or made the group in the first place.

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The purpose of the council is the bring forth ideas, share feedback, and vote on if they should be implemented. Any person can bring forth ideas, but the council will have the final vote. (Disregard the word "final" however; if a majority of the forum doesn't like the vote, they can reject the new ruling. We'll get the numbers out later.)


This is good. It says that the council will basically be an open forum (The meeting/medium definition not as in this message board) for all members with those who have a seat on the council making the "diplomatic" vote on the issue at hand. Final decisions are rarely ever really final anyway. Revisions can always be made if the need arises.

The current council being set to be made up of those elected to each chapter is a start but that also means that we should get elections done for all chapters as of current. At this point I believe it means that NA-West and EU would need to get their elections going and wrapped up to get their seats set for the council.

I suppose if we don't want to rush these elections would could just say that the current council would consist of the currently elected people of NA-East since it's been the only chapter to actually have their election completed at the moment.


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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:57 pm 
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The current council being set to be made up of those elected to each chapter is a start but that also means that we should get elections done for all chapters as of current. At this point I believe it means that NA-West and EU would need to get their elections going and wrapped up to get their seats set for the council.


Trying to get EU ones sorted, but very few people are putting names forward...

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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:50 pm 
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I like the idea of having a ruling council with two check systems (elections and popular over-rule).
I do feel, however, that it should remain clear that there is a chain of command. While major decisions made in the council room can be over turned by a popular movement, does not mean there isn't a hierarchy. That hierarchy can change, but it still has meaning.
I don't think this is going to be much of a problem, but it may also be a good idea to have clear (or clear-ish) definitions as to the rights of holding a certain position.
Perhaps I'll put that up to the council.

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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:05 pm 
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So... don't we already have the citadel? The description on the citadel is the exact same thing you made the council board for. Just sayin.

If I'm confused about it being an admin, I'm sure others will feel the same way.

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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:57 pm 
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This is completely unbalancement of power. Getting elected to two spots of power is too much. We need to hold elections to council place for people that don't already hold some power. I know you won't like this because this would it would give you less power but you have enough.

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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:08 pm 
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The council, i thought, was to be more like the collection of seperate officers from the chapters to get together and manage the army. Not necissarily a place for more power, but a place for the officers to address the army as a whole problems between the chapters, discuss events and goals for the army, and set up support for the rest of the army. IT's not really "more" power, but just making it easier for the elected officials to hear and discuss the army as a whole instead of just monitoring of the chapters.

It's not a second seat of power, it's more the way that the officers will hear and communicate with the whole community, not just their own chapters.

But as aximos said, that's almost exactly what the "citidale" is for, and not really seeing the distinction.

If we're talking about making a second council that will overlook even the officers of the army, it's a bad idea. the chain of command gets muddied, things get more complicated than they need to be and all of a sudden the army and doing anything gets wraped up in a whole bunch of red tape. That's really something i would like to avoid.


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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:12 pm 
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They have final-ish say on a lot of stuff that is power. I have done a lot of stuff for the herd and the only thing I have to show for it the word founder under my name. I have earned a chance to be elected to a position in the council.

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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:24 pm 
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It makes more sense to me to have the counsel as the people there are commanders and subcomanders or there respected areas than to have an extra place of power as Flln said.

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 Post subject: Re: The Council - Mar 08
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:28 pm 
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I have lost almost everything...

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